Theoritical? (sidebite)

[Kromulous]

The best car i ever drove, way back, was very free in, if you wernt smooth with the wheel it could spin out. Not that loose maybe but you needed to smooth, especially mid corner. The great part was when you started in on the throttle it would go fwd very quickly, even if you got it a tick to sideways in the middle it would pull out of it. Very nice car to drive, and it would turn.

Now my question is how in the world can a car have good fwd bite, and lack sidebite? Seems like to me if a car goes fwd, you dont really need sidebite.

What is sidebite? i havnt yet to understand what these newer drivers are talking about with this whole side bite thing.

Krom.

[billetbirdcage]

Sidebite:

A term by racers to discribe the lateral traction of the tires. This can be used to discribe the whole car (all 4 tires) or the back end of the car. This just refers to the sideways traction of said tires. If you lack side bite the car either 4 wheel drifts if refering to all 4 tries or the back end comes out if you are refering to the rear tires.

Alot of times the reason the car goes forward good when you have that loose feeling (what you discribed) is because the car is turning good and you are likely not using alot of brake (because that will make it even looser) so your speed to and thru the middle of the corner is higher so the car will excellerate easier with less wheel spin due to the higher corning speed.

Most cars are too tight on entry, however this feels the most comfortable to most drivers. Alot of times when you car is really fast you may notice the car feels like it wants to spin out going into the corner (not always but alot of time this is true).

[Kromulous]

Yep, usually when it was really fast it felt like it was gonna come around at any moment, but man it would come off the corner like a bullet. And if you got in trouble, all you had to do was hit, not hit just pick it up a little the gas pedal and it would pull fwd and save you from spinning.

My driver now is bent on this side bite thing, i just have a hard time figuring out what he means when he says its got good fwd bite, but needs more sidebite.

That one just mind boggles me, to me when i push on the throttle and the RR drives harder, and makes the rear end want to step out further, i always called that throttle loose. Is that what there referring to sidebite?

The 4 wheel drift, i've felt that and its the worst. I can understand lack of sidebite on that one.

Thanks for the input, just trying to get my head around how he thinks, so we can work better.

Krom.

[bizkit]

Krom on that rocket what he is feeling, is the car want take a set so he can pick the the throttle back up right about the apex of the corner, it took me a long time to get used to that feeling with these cars and adjust my driving style, nothing in my opinion fixes it except for laps and learning different throttle points, with these cars you actually throttle up a little faster to get the car to climb the bars and that puts the side bite in the car he is looking for, but in the really slick its easy to loose the nose also, so you have to trail the RR more than most other cars..JMO though