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[01racing]

i have a 04 smak down good getting in but car is loose off turn it dont hook up til u are about 100 foot off turn her is the set up

springs lf 550 5/3 shock intagra 50psi rf 400 3/5 50psi
lr 225 5/2 50 psi dumming 5/0 200psi rr 225 3/5 40psi
54.7% on lift
rear 54.5
cross 49.5
j bar bottom on pinon 9 on fram
5th coil 350 at 34.5
tires 1400 lf rf and lr 1600 rr

track flat very slick

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I'd take some left side weight out (down to 54%) and stiffen the rf to 450#.

First thing I would do though is up the crosssweight. 49.5% won't cut it when it is slick. You should have at least 120# lr.

[pinionangle]

I agree, id up the right front spring rate 50 pounds and start from there.

[01racing]

i run last night heat race we was really good track got really slick had the same set up with 120lbs of left rear i was loose in no bite off BUT was not loose off just no bite my 5th coil was 350spring at 35.5 if i was to move it out would that help

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

How is the car's attitude off the corner? Is the back picking up when you gas it? If you have no traction initially, I would actually shorten the 5th coil. Where are your bars at?

How big is this track? Momentum or stop and go? You may have not had bite off because you were loose on entry and possibly loosing the tires before exit. I would fix the entry by dropping the left % down some. This may fix everything. These Smacks are kinda loose on entry. I didn't like your left side % from the start for a flat, slick track. You could up the rear % some too by putting some lead in front of the fuel cell.

[01racing]

the car feels like it starts to get up but then falls down from no bite

top bars 1 hole down
left lower 3 down
right lower middle

i know i can lower right lower to get in

the bigest prob i got is not bing able to get off the car come off stright but just no bite and not up on the bars like i would like it to be

the track is a big 1/2 mile little bank

u think like 54% LS do u think 56%rear would be to much?

and some guys told me maybe to solfing the rf would help it hink up but then that also takes drive away too so i am at the point i dont know what to do

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

If this is an aluminum block car 400# rf should be good. If iron block, I'd run 450#. I would run 54% left side and 56% rear. 120 lbs lr. It shouild go. Make sure you have some preload on the 5th coil. The spring should be compressed about 3/8" from its free height.

[billetbirdcage]

Make sure you guys are both are talking the same W or W/O driver on the left side percents. 54.0 with driver and 54.0 without are totally different. ALso whether you lead is high or low will make a big difference. Sounds like it has to much left (the case if 54+ without dirver) or COG/lead to low to induce some roll to gain bar angle, or just not enough bar angle.

Just a thought.

If the car wouldn't get up and stay up, a real simple thing is just raise the LRU bar.

MasterSbilt_Racer: Roughly how many degrees is 2 hole down on that year? 18 or more like 21?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

I'm pretty sure it is 18 degrees.